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=Talk=
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== Script talk ==
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* I moved the (GUI) script to an extra page so it is possible to download it here AND edit it with the wiki interface. See [[HowTo:Radiosity baking in Blender#Script]] and [[HowTo:Radiosity baking in Blender/vccopy.py]]--[[User:pontiac|Pontiac]] 16:47, 23 Sep 2005 (PDT)
  
I'm putting out a request for help from the more experienced wiki users on a few matters:
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=== Vertex colors messed up again ===
* "Image location": Is there somewhere the pictures can be moved? To future proof everything having them on an external server isn't ideal since it might dissapear forever without notice.
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Thsi topic again :( Ok, i've tried to reproduce my perfect copied vertex colors with the original blender-file and it just doesn't work (in all cases). When i use the obj file (by importing it again... as i did at work) i get a fairly good result. But when using the blender-file (basically the source file to the obj) i get the messed up VCols again. :-/ It's a bit frustrating when i have to do the rad-process over and over again, just to find out that it didn't do it right. Did you get the .blend file i sent you via mail mail? Just purge the vertex colors of the mesh on the first layer and try doing the rad-process with that mesh. I dunno what i can do to improve this behaviour, but i'll try to help where i can. --[[User:pontiac|Pontiac]] 10:40, 26 Sep 2005 (PDT)
* Image formatting: Is there a way of inserting some (vertical) space between the images and the text? Image captions?
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----
--[[User:tiny paintings|tiny paintings]] 12:22, 22 Sep 2005 (PDT)
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What the... please say you forgot to use the new script?!
 +
Do you happend to have ICQ? If you do, my number is 1949713.
 +
 
 +
I got the .blend file - it's the file I used to reproduce the bug I fixed. When I used the obj file I had no problems, even with the old script.
 +
 
 +
Why do you have to relcalculate the radiosity? Isn't it only transfering the vertex colors to the original mesh that's causing trouble?
 +
I put together a little debugging version of the script, [http://www.nada.kth.se/~gimaker/vs/vccopy_dbg.py here]. It dumps some debugging info to stdout. Use it to reproduce your errornous results and send the stdout to me (at seaghost at hellokitty.com, or whatever you find suiting). Also post screendumps if you think they'd be useful in finding the problem. --[[User:tiny paintings|tiny paintings]] 12:30, 26 Sep 2005 (PDT)
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 +
Maybe 'recalculate' is the wrong term... yes, transfering the vertex colors is the thing that doesn't work (or bette: it works, but there are vertices with the wrong 'shade')  with the blend file, but only with the obj. I'll do some debugging with your script tomorrow. I'm pretty sure that it's just a minor problem, that i (we) just didn't see. (PS: At the time i tested the new script with the matrix transform i only had the obj available (which worked), so testing the blend file was no option at that time :-/ )  --[[User:pontiac|Pontiac]] 15:16, 26 Sep 2005 (PDT)
 +
----
 +
I've been able to reproduce the symptoms you described, I believe. It's an accuracy issue... I'll look into it. --[[User:tiny paintings|tiny paintings]] 15:40, 26 Sep 2005 (PDT)
 +
 
 +
Here's the hack (you have to mess with acc till it gets right):
 +
<pre>
 +
...
 +
 
 +
acc = 0.001
 +
accmul = 1/acc
 +
 +
def accmod(x,y,z,i,j):
 +
return (round(x*accmul)*acc, round(y*accmul)*acc, round(z*accmul)*acc, i, j)
 +
 +
for i in range(len(me_to.faces)):
 +
for j in range(len(me_to.faces[i].v)):
 +
vert = me_to.faces[i].v[j].co
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l_to.append(accmod(vert[0], vert[1], vert[2], i, j))
 +
 +
for j in range(len(me_from.faces[i].v)):
 +
vert = me_from.faces[i].v[j].co
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l_from.append(accmod(vert[0], vert[1], vert[2], i, j))
 +
 
 +
...
 +
</pre>
 +
 
 +
The plan is rewriting it to be less of a hack (at the expense of quadratic running time)... But that should work, for now.
 +
----
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[http://www.nada.kth.se/~gimaker/vs/vccopy_n2.py Here's] a script that shouldn't be plauged by accuracy problems (well, not quite true as accuracy will always be a problem if have vertices close enough...). The downside is that it runs a lot slower. I'm working on speeding it up... (I need ''arrays'', hints anyone?) But first I need to sleeeep! --[[User:tiny paintings|tiny paintings]] 17:16, 26 Sep 2005 (PDT)
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----
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It seems to work with my .blend-testcase now. I'll test it some more today. And speed isn't really a problem since you (normally) do this once per mesh and hopefully never again after that. Or are there other scenarios? --[[User:pontiac|Pontiac]] 00:03, 27 Sep 2005 (PDT)
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* But it is almost painfully slow, even with a small test mesh. It requires <math>\Theta(|V|^2)</math> iterations so it's going to take a looong time for a large mesh. If I can't come up with anything else I, myself, would rather use the variant with truncating accuracy in the vertex coordinates.
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----
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Regarding arrays in python ... you might want to check out [http://www.penzilla.net/tutorial/python/numeric/] and [http://www-teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk/computing/ProgrammingResources/Oxford/handbook_Python_html/node35.html] Is that what you meant? --[[User:pontiac|Pontiac]] 00:23, 27 Sep 2005 (PDT)
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* Nah. array arrays only hold primitive types, it seems (I needed to store (nested) tuples). Random access in lists seems to be pretty fast in python, anyhow. --[[User:tiny paintings|tiny paintings]] 09:08, 27 Sep 2005 (PDT)
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 +
=== Possible improvments ===
 +
* Somehow change the script so that it sets the object centers correctly. Then we can remove the object->world transformation, sort on object space coords and and the vertex color copy would work even if one or both of the meshes are moved around. Not very urgent, just don't move the meshes around!
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 +
== Original script==
 +
''This is the original Script by [[User:tiny paintings|tiny paintings]]. See the main page for the most recent version.''
 +
 
 +
:'''Warning: This script contains a serious bug and will only work if your objects origin (the little purple dot) is in the origin.'''
 +
 
 +
You have to pardon my python n00bness, this is all I could come up with. Feel free to improve it!
 +
 
 +
<pre>
 +
import Blender
 +
 
 +
# WHAT DOES IT DO?
 +
# This script copies the vertex color information from one mesh
 +
# to another, and does so correctly assuming the meshes have the
 +
# same geometry, vertex-wise.
 +
 
 +
# IMPORTANT: Assumes meshes with exactly equal geometry, vertex-wise.
 +
 
 +
fromObj = "Mesh"  # Set this to the resulting mesh from radio calcuation
 +
toObj = "Fuselage_default" # Set this to the name of your original, UV-mapped mesh.
 +
 
 +
me_from = Blender.Object.Get(fromObj).getData()
 +
me_to = Blender.Object.Get(toObj).getData()
 +
 
 +
if not me_to and not me_from:
 +
print "ERROR: Source/destination object does not exist"
 +
 
 +
elif len(me_to.verts) != len(me_from.verts):
 +
print "ERROR: Source and destination objects must have the same number of vertices"
 +
 +
else:
 +
# make two lists sorted on coordinates,
 +
# containing a face and vertex index i and j respectively
 +
 +
l_to = []
 +
l_from = []
 +
 +
# format: [ (x,y,z, face index, vertex index), ... ]
 +
 +
for i in range(len(me_to.faces)):
 +
for j in range(len(me_to.faces[i].v)):
 +
vert = me_to.faces[i].v[j].co
 +
l_to.append((vert[0], vert[1], vert[2], i, j))
 +
 +
for j in range(len(me_from.faces[i].v)):
 +
vert = me_from.faces[i].v[j].co
 +
l_from.append((vert[0], vert[1], vert[2], i, j))
 +
 +
# Sort the lists after vertex coordinates
 +
l_to.sort()
 +
l_from.sort()
 +
 +
for i in range(len(l_to)):
 +
to_f = l_to[i][3]
 +
from_f = l_from[i][3]
 +
to_v = l_to[i][4]
 +
from_v = l_from[i][4]
 +
 +
me_to.faces[to_f].col[to_v] = me_from.faces[from_f].col[from_v]
 +
 +
 
 +
me_to.update()
 +
print "Copied vertex color information from object "+fromObj+" to object "+toObj+"."
 +
</pre>
 +
 
 +
==Development Script==
 +
 
 +
Regarding the development script:
 +
 
 +
You're overdoing it. KISS. The purpose of the howto is to show the general technique for baking radiosity - ambient baking is a good application and serves as the example. And the script itself made ''only for transfering vertex color information''. Baking glowmaps is an application just as good as ambient baking, and even if you're baking ambient light you don't always want to utilize a sphere as the lightsource. And if you do want a sphere adding one is simple, and usually done once per project, so the manual labour time is minimal. --[[User:tiny paintings|tiny paintings]] 09:38, 27 Sep 2005 (PDT)
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 +
Oh, i'm just learning myself python by doing this little modification. i'm giving myself a few aims (inverting faces, applying materials, automatically positioning and scaling) and try to realize them. ''If'' it becomes useable without having any disadvantages i'll incorporate it into the main script, but we'll see.... the main purpose is to get a hold of the python language (and the Blender API). --[[User:pontiac|Pontiac]] 09:49, 27 Sep 2005 (PDT)
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 +
Ok, so i'm putting the API link here (as a reminder for myself, the blender3d.org search engine didn't even find it) ;)
 +
* [http://www.blender.org/modules/documentation/237PythonDoc/API_intro-module.html The Blender Python API Reference (Blender 2.37)]
 +
 
 +
<pre>
 +
#!BPY
 +
 
 +
""" Registration info for Blender menus: <- these words are ignored
 +
Name: 'Vertex Color Copy'
 +
Blender: 232
 +
Group: 'Object'
 +
Tip: 'Copies the vertex color information from one object to another.'
 +
"""
 +
 
 +
__author__ = ""
 +
__url__ = ("blender",
 +
"Script's homepage, http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/wiki/HowTo:Radiosity_baking_in_Blender")
 +
__version__ = "233"
 +
 
 +
__bpydoc__ = """\
 +
"""
 +
 
 +
# WHAT DOES IT DO?
 +
# This script copies the vertex color information from one mesh
 +
# to another, and does so correctly assuming the meshes have the
 +
# same geometry, vertex-wise.
 +
 
 +
import math
 +
import Blender
 +
from Blender import *
 +
from Blender.Draw import *
 +
from Blender.BGL import *
 +
from math import pi,cos,sin
 +
 
 +
 
 +
fromObj = "Mesh.rad" # Set this to the resulting mesh from radio calcuation
 +
toObj = "Mesh.orig" # Set this to the name of your original, UV-mapped mesh.
 +
sphere_faces = 50
 +
ico_subd = 4
 +
fromObjx=Create(fromObj)
 +
toObjx=Create(toObj)
 +
sphere_facesx=Create(sphere_faces)
 +
ico_subdx=Create(ico_subd)
 +
 
 +
def obj_exists(name):
 +
objects=Blender.Object.Get()
 +
for object in objects:
 +
if object.name == name:
 +
return 1
 +
return 0
 +
 +
def mesh_exists(name):
 +
objects=Blender.Object.Get()
 +
for object in objects:
 +
if object.getType() == 'Mesh':
 +
mesh=object.getData()
 +
if mesh.name == name:
 +
return 1
 +
return 0
 +
 
 +
def icosphere(name='IcoSphere', n=0, normals_out=1): # n= number subds, normals_out=the normals of the faces points outwards
 +
#smooth=0
 +
radius=0.5
 +
me=NMesh.GetRaw()
 +
icovert = [
 +
[0.0,0.0,-2.0], #0
 +
[1.4472, -1.05144,-0.89443], #1
 +
[-0.55277, -1.70128,-0.89443], #2
 +
[-1.78885,0.0,-0.89443], #3
 +
[-0.55277,1.70128,-0.89443], #4
 +
[1.4472,1.05144,-0.89443], #5
 +
[0.55277,-1.70128,0.89443], #6
 +
[-1.4472,-1.05144,0.89443], #7
 +
[-1.4472,1.05144,0.89443], #8
 +
[0.55277,1.70128,0.89443], #9
 +
[1.78885,0.0,0.89443], #10
 +
[0.0,0.0,2.0]] #11
 +
 
 +
icoface = [
 +
[2,0,1],
 +
[1,0,5],
 +
[3,0,2],
 +
[4,0,3],
 +
[5,0,4],
 +
[1,5,10],
 +
[2,1,6],
 +
[3,2,7],
 +
[4,3,8],
 +
[5,4,9],
 +
[6,1,10],
 +
[7,2,6],
 +
[8,3,7],
 +
[9,4,8],
 +
[10,5,9],
 +
[6,10,11],
 +
[7,6,11],
 +
[8,7,11],
 +
[9,8,11],
 +
[10,9,11]]
 +
 
 +
for v in icovert: # v=vertex
 +
vn=NMesh.Vert(v[0]*radius*1.3333333/2, v[1]*radius*1.3333333/2, v[2]*radius*1.3333333/2)
 +
me.verts.append(vn)
 +
 
 +
for f in icoface: # f=face
 +
f_=NMesh.Face()
 +
 +
if not normals_out:
 +
f.reverse()
 +
 
 +
for v in f:
 +
f_.append(me.verts[v])
 +
#f_.smooth=smooth
 +
me.faces.append(f_)
 +
 +
if n>0:
 +
me.setSubDivLevels([n, n]) #Set Subdivisions. (Just the display+render mode, no real geometry created)
 +
me.setMode('SubSurf')
 +
mesh2=NMesh.PutRaw(me)
 +
mesh = Blender.NMesh.PutRaw(Blender.NMesh.GetRawFromObject(mesh2.name), 'light_sphere')
 +
mesh.setName(name)
 +
scene = Blender.Scene.getCurrent()
 +
scene.unlink(mesh2) # TODO: better solution?
 +
else:
 +
mesh=NMesh.PutRaw(me, name, 0)
 +
 
 +
return mesh
 +
 +
def sphere(name='SphereMesh', n=20, normals_out=1): # n= number of faces,normals_out= the normals of the faces points outwards
 +
#smooth=0
 +
radius=0.5
 +
me=NMesh.GetRaw()
 +
for i in range(0, n):
 +
for j in range(0, n):
 +
x=sin(j*pi*2.0/(n-1))*cos(-pi/2.0+i*pi/(n-1))*radius
 +
y=cos(j*pi*2.0/(n-1))*(cos(-pi/2.0+i*pi/(n-1)))*radius
 +
z=sin(-pi/2.0+i*pi/(n-1))*radius
 +
v=NMesh.Vert(x,y,z)
 +
me.verts.append(v)
 +
n0=len(range(0, n))
 +
for i in range(0, n-1):
 +
for j in range(0, n-1):
 +
f=NMesh.Face()
 +
if normals_out == 0:
 +
f.v.append(me.verts[i*n0+j])
 +
f.v.append(me.verts[i*n0+j+1])
 +
f.v.append(me.verts[(i+1)*n0+j+1])
 +
f.v.append(me.verts[(i+1)*n0+j])
 +
else:
 +
f.v.append(me.verts[(i+1)*n0+j])
 +
f.v.append(me.verts[(i+1)*n0+j+1])
 +
f.v.append(me.verts[i*n0+j+1])
 +
f.v.append(me.verts[i*n0+j])
 +
me.faces.append(f)
 +
me.faces.append(f)
 +
#f.smooth=smooth
 +
mesh=NMesh.PutRaw(me, name, 0)
 +
return mesh
 +
 
 +
def add_sphere(type=1):
 +
size_mult=2.0
 +
selected_objects = Blender.Object.GetSelected() # gets the selected objects
 +
midpoint=[0, 0, 0]
 +
max=[0, 0, 0]
 +
min=[0, 0, 0]
 +
if len(selected_objects) > 0:
 +
max=selected_objects[0].getBoundBox()[0]
 +
min=selected_objects[0].getBoundBox()[7]
 +
size=[1,1,1]
 +
object_counter=0
 +
for object in selected_objects:
 +
object_counter=object_counter+1
 +
BB=object.getBoundBox()
 +
bb_point= [0, 0, 0]
 +
for point in BB:
 +
if point[0]>max[0]: max[0]=point[0]
 +
if point[1]>max[1]: max[1]=point[1]
 +
if point[2]>max[2]: max[2]=point[2]
 +
if point[0]<min[0]: min[0]=point[0]
 +
if point[1]<min[1]: min[1]=point[1]
 +
if point[2]<min[2]: min[2]=point[2]
 +
bb_point=[
 +
bb_point[0]+point[0],
 +
bb_point[1]+point[1],
 +
bb_point[2]+point[2] ]
 +
midpoint=[
 +
midpoint[0]+bb_point[0]/8,
 +
midpoint[1]+bb_point[1]/8,
 +
midpoint[2]+bb_point[2]/8 ]
 +
 
 +
if object_counter > 0:
 +
midpoint = [
 +
midpoint[0]/object_counter,
 +
midpoint[1]/object_counter,
 +
midpoint[2]/object_counter]
 +
size = [
 +
max[0]-min[0],
 +
max[1]-min[1],
 +
max[2]-min[2] ]
 +
 
 +
if not mesh_exists('light_sphere') :
 +
 +
if type==1:
 +
sphere_object = icosphere('light_sphere', ico_subd, 0)
 +
elif type == 2:
 +
sphere_object = sphere('light_sphere', sphere_faces, 0)
 +
sphere_object.setName('light_sphere')
 +
 +
print "Object",sphere_object.name,"added."
 +
sphere_object.setDrawType(2) # set drawtype 2=wire
 +
sphere_object.setLocation(midpoint)
 +
sphere_object.setSize(size[0]*size_mult, size[1]*size_mult, size[2]*size_mult)
 +
sphere_mat = Material.New('light_sphere')
 +
print "Material",sphere_mat.name,"added."
 +
sphere_mat.rgbCol = [1.0, 1.0, 1.0]
 +
sphere_mat.emit = 0.02 # equivalent to mat.setEmit(xxx)
 +
me=sphere_object.getData()
 +
me.addMaterial(sphere_mat)
 +
me.update()
 +
print sphere_object.getData().materials
 +
Blender.Redraw()
 +
else:
 +
print "ERROR: Sphere already exists."
 +
Blender.Draw.PupMenu("ERROR%t|Sphere already exists.")
 +
 
 +
def copy_data():
 +
#global fromObj, toObj
 +
me_from = Blender.Object.Get(fromObj).getData()
 +
me_to = Blender.Object.Get(toObj).getData()
 +
 
 +
if not me_to and not me_from:
 +
print "ERROR: Source/destination object does not exist"
 +
Blender.Draw.PupMenu("ERROR%t|Source/destination object does not exist")
 +
 
 +
elif len(me_to.verts) != len(me_from.verts):
 +
print "ERROR: Source and destination objects must have the same number of vertices"
 +
Blender.Draw.PupMenu("ERROR%t|Source and destination objects must have the same number of vertices")
 +
 +
else:
 +
 +
# Transform objects to world space coordinates:
 +
me_to.transform(Blender.Object.Get(toObj).getMatrix())
 +
me_from.transform(Blender.Object.Get(fromObj).getMatrix())
 +
 +
 
 +
l_from = []
 +
 +
for i in range(len(me_from.faces)):
 +
for j in range(len(me_from.faces[i].v)):
 +
vert = me_from.faces[i].v[j].co
 +
l_from.append((vert, i, j))
 +
 
 +
 +
#me_to.faces[to_f].col[to_v] = me_from.faces[from_f].col[from_v]
 +
 +
def sqdist((x2,y2,z2), (x1,y1,z1)):
 +
return (x2-x1)**2 + (y2-y1)**2 + (z2-z1)**2
 +
 +
 +
for i in range(len(me_to.faces)):
 +
for j in range(len(me_to.faces[i].v)):
 +
# find nearest vertex in me_from:
 +
 +
list_index = -1
 +
least_sqdist = 0
 +
 +
for k in range(len(l_from)):
 +
d = sqdist(l_from[k][0], me_to.faces[i].v[j])
 +
 +
if list_index < 0 or d < least_sqdist:
 +
least_sqdist = d
 +
list_index = k
 +
 +
assert(list_index != -1)
 +
 +
face_index = l_from[list_index][1]
 +
vert_index = l_from[list_index][2]
 +
 +
me_to.faces[i].col[j] = me_from.faces[face_index].col[vert_index]
 +
 +
del l_from[list_index]
 +
 
 +
# Transform objects back to object space coordinates:
 +
me_to.transform(Blender.Object.Get(toObj).getInverseMatrix())
 +
me_from.transform(Blender.Object.Get(fromObj).getInverseMatrix())
 +
 
 +
me_to.update()
 +
print "Copied vertex color information from object "+fromObj+" to object "+toObj+"."
 +
Blender.Draw.PupMenu("SUCESS%t|Copied vertex color information from object "+fromObj+" to object "+toObj+".")
 +
 
 +
def EVENT(evt,val):
 +
  pass
 +
 
 +
def BUTTON(evt):
 +
if (evt==1):
 +
Exit()
 +
elif (evt==2):
 +
copy_data()
 +
elif (evt==3):
 +
add_sphere(1)
 +
elif (evt==4):
 +
add_sphere(2)
 +
Blender.Redraw()
 +
 
 +
def DRAW():
 +
global fromObj, toObj, fromObjx, toObjx, ico_subd, ico_subdx, sphere_faces, sphere_facesx
 +
 
 +
glClear(GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT)
 +
glColor3f(0.1, 0.1, 0.15)   
 +
 
 +
ligne=20
 +
#PushButton(name, event, x, y, width, height, tooltip=None)
 +
PushButton ("Exit",1,20,1,80,ligne)
 +
PushButton ("Copy Data",2,102,1,80,ligne)
 +
 
 +
glRasterPos2f(20, ligne*2-10)
 +
Text("Vertex Color Copy")
 +
glRasterPos2f(20, ligne*3-5)
 +
Text("To")
 +
# String(name, event, x, y, width, height, initial, length, tooltip=None)
 +
toObj = String('OB:', 999, 50, ligne*3-10, 200, 18, toObjx.val, 120, "The object to which the vertex colors should be copied." )
 +
 +
glRasterPos2f(20, ligne*4-5)
 +
Text("From")
 +
fromObj = String('OB:', 999, 50, ligne*4-10, 200, 18, fromObjx.val, 120, "The object from which the vertex colors should be copied." )
 +
 +
 +
PushButton ("Add IcoSphere", 3, 50, ligne*5-10, 90, ligne)
 +
#Slider(name, event, x, y, width, height, initial, min, max, realtime=1, tooltip=None)
 +
ico_subd = Slider('Subd:', 999, 50, ligne*6-10, 200, 18, ico_subdx.val, 0, 6, 1, "The subdivisions of the IcoSphere.")
 +
 +
PushButton ("Add Sphere", 4, 50, ligne*7-10, 90, ligne)
 +
sphere_faces = Slider('Sphere faces:', 999, 50, ligne*8-10, 200, 18, sphere_facesx.val, 20, 500, 1, "The faces of the sphere.")
 +
 +
 +
toObjx=toObj
 +
sphere_facesx = sphere_faces
 +
ico_subdx = ico_subd
 +
fromObjx=fromObj
 +
toObj=toObjx.val
 +
fromObj=fromObjx.val
 +
sphere_faces = sphere_facesx.val
 +
ico_subd = ico_subdx.val
 +
 +
 
 +
Register(DRAW,EVENT,BUTTON)
 +
</pre>

Latest revision as of 14:39, 28 September 2005

Script talk

Vertex colors messed up again

Thsi topic again :( Ok, i've tried to reproduce my perfect copied vertex colors with the original blender-file and it just doesn't work (in all cases). When i use the obj file (by importing it again... as i did at work) i get a fairly good result. But when using the blender-file (basically the source file to the obj) i get the messed up VCols again. :-/ It's a bit frustrating when i have to do the rad-process over and over again, just to find out that it didn't do it right. Did you get the .blend file i sent you via mail mail? Just purge the vertex colors of the mesh on the first layer and try doing the rad-process with that mesh. I dunno what i can do to improve this behaviour, but i'll try to help where i can. --Pontiac 10:40, 26 Sep 2005 (PDT)


What the... please say you forgot to use the new script?! Do you happend to have ICQ? If you do, my number is 1949713.

I got the .blend file - it's the file I used to reproduce the bug I fixed. When I used the obj file I had no problems, even with the old script.

Why do you have to relcalculate the radiosity? Isn't it only transfering the vertex colors to the original mesh that's causing trouble? I put together a little debugging version of the script, here. It dumps some debugging info to stdout. Use it to reproduce your errornous results and send the stdout to me (at seaghost at hellokitty.com, or whatever you find suiting). Also post screendumps if you think they'd be useful in finding the problem. --tiny paintings 12:30, 26 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Maybe 'recalculate' is the wrong term... yes, transfering the vertex colors is the thing that doesn't work (or bette: it works, but there are vertices with the wrong 'shade') with the blend file, but only with the obj. I'll do some debugging with your script tomorrow. I'm pretty sure that it's just a minor problem, that i (we) just didn't see. (PS: At the time i tested the new script with the matrix transform i only had the obj available (which worked), so testing the blend file was no option at that time :-/ ) --Pontiac 15:16, 26 Sep 2005 (PDT)


I've been able to reproduce the symptoms you described, I believe. It's an accuracy issue... I'll look into it. --tiny paintings 15:40, 26 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Here's the hack (you have to mess with acc till it gets right):

...

acc = 0.001
accmul = 1/acc
		
def accmod(x,y,z,i,j):
	return (round(x*accmul)*acc, round(y*accmul)*acc, round(z*accmul)*acc, i, j)		
	
for i in range(len(me_to.faces)):
	for j in range(len(me_to.faces[i].v)):
		vert = me_to.faces[i].v[j].co
		l_to.append(accmod(vert[0], vert[1], vert[2], i, j))
			
for j in range(len(me_from.faces[i].v)):
	vert = me_from.faces[i].v[j].co
		l_from.append(accmod(vert[0], vert[1], vert[2], i, j))

...

The plan is rewriting it to be less of a hack (at the expense of quadratic running time)... But that should work, for now.


Here's a script that shouldn't be plauged by accuracy problems (well, not quite true as accuracy will always be a problem if have vertices close enough...). The downside is that it runs a lot slower. I'm working on speeding it up... (I need arrays, hints anyone?) But first I need to sleeeep! --tiny paintings 17:16, 26 Sep 2005 (PDT)


It seems to work with my .blend-testcase now. I'll test it some more today. And speed isn't really a problem since you (normally) do this once per mesh and hopefully never again after that. Or are there other scenarios? --Pontiac 00:03, 27 Sep 2005 (PDT)

  • But it is almost painfully slow, even with a small test mesh. It requires <math>\Theta(|V|^2)</math> iterations so it's going to take a looong time for a large mesh. If I can't come up with anything else I, myself, would rather use the variant with truncating accuracy in the vertex coordinates.

Regarding arrays in python ... you might want to check out [1] and [2] Is that what you meant? --Pontiac 00:23, 27 Sep 2005 (PDT)

  • Nah. array arrays only hold primitive types, it seems (I needed to store (nested) tuples). Random access in lists seems to be pretty fast in python, anyhow. --tiny paintings 09:08, 27 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Possible improvments

  • Somehow change the script so that it sets the object centers correctly. Then we can remove the object->world transformation, sort on object space coords and and the vertex color copy would work even if one or both of the meshes are moved around. Not very urgent, just don't move the meshes around!

Original script

This is the original Script by tiny paintings. See the main page for the most recent version.

Warning: This script contains a serious bug and will only work if your objects origin (the little purple dot) is in the origin.

You have to pardon my python n00bness, this is all I could come up with. Feel free to improve it!

import Blender

# WHAT DOES IT DO?
# This script copies the vertex color information from one mesh
# to another, and does so correctly assuming the meshes have the
# same geometry, vertex-wise.

# IMPORTANT: Assumes meshes with exactly equal geometry, vertex-wise.

fromObj = "Mesh"  # Set this to the resulting mesh from radio calcuation
toObj = "Fuselage_default" # Set this to the name of your original, UV-mapped mesh.

me_from = Blender.Object.Get(fromObj).getData()
me_to = Blender.Object.Get(toObj).getData()

if not me_to and not me_from:
	print "ERROR: Source/destination object does not exist"

elif len(me_to.verts) != len(me_from.verts):
	print "ERROR: Source and destination objects must have the same number of vertices"
	
else:
	# make two lists sorted on coordinates,
	# containing a face and vertex index i and j respectively
	
	l_to = []
	l_from = []
	
	# format: [ (x,y,z, face index, vertex index), ... ]
	
	for i in range(len(me_to.faces)):
		for j in range(len(me_to.faces[i].v)):
			vert = me_to.faces[i].v[j].co
			l_to.append((vert[0], vert[1], vert[2], i, j))
			
		for j in range(len(me_from.faces[i].v)):
			vert = me_from.faces[i].v[j].co
			l_from.append((vert[0], vert[1], vert[2], i, j))
		
	# Sort the lists after vertex coordinates
	l_to.sort()	
	l_from.sort()
	
	for i in range(len(l_to)):
		to_f = l_to[i][3]
		from_f = l_from[i][3]
		to_v = l_to[i][4]
		from_v = l_from[i][4]
		
		me_to.faces[to_f].col[to_v] = me_from.faces[from_f].col[from_v]
			

	me_to.update()
	print "Copied vertex color information from object "+fromObj+" to object "+toObj+"."

Development Script

Regarding the development script:

You're overdoing it. KISS. The purpose of the howto is to show the general technique for baking radiosity - ambient baking is a good application and serves as the example. And the script itself made only for transfering vertex color information. Baking glowmaps is an application just as good as ambient baking, and even if you're baking ambient light you don't always want to utilize a sphere as the lightsource. And if you do want a sphere adding one is simple, and usually done once per project, so the manual labour time is minimal. --tiny paintings 09:38, 27 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Oh, i'm just learning myself python by doing this little modification. i'm giving myself a few aims (inverting faces, applying materials, automatically positioning and scaling) and try to realize them. If it becomes useable without having any disadvantages i'll incorporate it into the main script, but we'll see.... the main purpose is to get a hold of the python language (and the Blender API). --Pontiac 09:49, 27 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Ok, so i'm putting the API link here (as a reminder for myself, the blender3d.org search engine didn't even find it) ;)

#!BPY

""" Registration info for Blender menus: <- these words are ignored
Name: 'Vertex Color Copy'
Blender: 232
Group: 'Object'
Tip: 'Copies the vertex color information from one object to another.'
"""

__author__ = ""
__url__ = ("blender",
"Script's homepage, http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/wiki/HowTo:Radiosity_baking_in_Blender")
__version__ = "233"

__bpydoc__ = """\
"""

# WHAT DOES IT DO?
# This script copies the vertex color information from one mesh
# to another, and does so correctly assuming the meshes have the
# same geometry, vertex-wise.

import math
import Blender
from Blender import *
from Blender.Draw import *
from Blender.BGL import *
from math import pi,cos,sin


fromObj = "Mesh.rad"		# Set this to the resulting mesh from radio calcuation
toObj = "Mesh.orig"		# Set this to the name of your original, UV-mapped mesh.
sphere_faces = 50
ico_subd = 4
fromObjx=Create(fromObj)
toObjx=Create(toObj)
sphere_facesx=Create(sphere_faces)
ico_subdx=Create(ico_subd)

def obj_exists(name):
	objects=Blender.Object.Get()
	for object in objects:
		if object.name == name:
			return 1
	return 0
	
def mesh_exists(name):
	objects=Blender.Object.Get()
	for object in objects:
		if object.getType() == 'Mesh':
			mesh=object.getData()
			if mesh.name == name:
				return 1
	return 0

def icosphere(name='IcoSphere', n=0, normals_out=1): # n= number subds, normals_out=the normals of the faces points outwards
	#smooth=0
	radius=0.5
	me=NMesh.GetRaw()
	icovert = [
		[0.0,0.0,-2.0],	#0
		[1.4472, -1.05144,-0.89443],	#1
		[-0.55277, -1.70128,-0.89443],	#2
		[-1.78885,0.0,-0.89443],	#3
		[-0.55277,1.70128,-0.89443],	#4
		[1.4472,1.05144,-0.89443],	#5
		[0.55277,-1.70128,0.89443],	#6
		[-1.4472,-1.05144,0.89443],	#7
		[-1.4472,1.05144,0.89443],	#8
		[0.55277,1.70128,0.89443],	#9
		[1.78885,0.0,0.89443],	#10
		[0.0,0.0,2.0]]	#11

	icoface = [
		[2,0,1],
		[1,0,5],
		[3,0,2],
		[4,0,3],	
		[5,0,4],
		[1,5,10],
		[2,1,6],
		[3,2,7],
		[4,3,8],
		[5,4,9],
		[6,1,10],
		[7,2,6],
		[8,3,7],
		[9,4,8],
		[10,5,9],
		[6,10,11],
		[7,6,11],
		[8,7,11],
		[9,8,11],
		[10,9,11]] 

	for v in icovert: # v=vertex
		vn=NMesh.Vert(v[0]*radius*1.3333333/2, v[1]*radius*1.3333333/2, v[2]*radius*1.3333333/2)
		me.verts.append(vn)

	for f in icoface: # f=face
		f_=NMesh.Face()
		
		if not normals_out:
			f.reverse()

		for v in f: 
			f_.append(me.verts[v])
		#f_.smooth=smooth
		me.faces.append(f_)
	
	if n>0:
		me.setSubDivLevels([n, n]) #Set Subdivisions. (Just the display+render mode, no real geometry created)
		me.setMode('SubSurf')	
		mesh2=NMesh.PutRaw(me)
		mesh = Blender.NMesh.PutRaw(Blender.NMesh.GetRawFromObject(mesh2.name), 'light_sphere')
		mesh.setName(name)
		scene = Blender.Scene.getCurrent()
		scene.unlink(mesh2)	# TODO: better solution?
	else:
		mesh=NMesh.PutRaw(me, name, 0)

	return mesh
	
def sphere(name='SphereMesh', n=20, normals_out=1):	# n= number of faces,normals_out= the normals of the faces points outwards
	#smooth=0
	radius=0.5
	me=NMesh.GetRaw() 
	for i in range(0, n): 
		for j in range(0, n):
			x=sin(j*pi*2.0/(n-1))*cos(-pi/2.0+i*pi/(n-1))*radius
			y=cos(j*pi*2.0/(n-1))*(cos(-pi/2.0+i*pi/(n-1)))*radius
			z=sin(-pi/2.0+i*pi/(n-1))*radius
			v=NMesh.Vert(x,y,z)
			me.verts.append(v)
	n0=len(range(0, n))
	for i in range(0, n-1): 
		for j in range(0, n-1): 
			f=NMesh.Face() 
			if normals_out == 0:
				f.v.append(me.verts[i*n0+j])
				f.v.append(me.verts[i*n0+j+1])
				f.v.append(me.verts[(i+1)*n0+j+1])
				f.v.append(me.verts[(i+1)*n0+j])
			else:
				f.v.append(me.verts[(i+1)*n0+j])
				f.v.append(me.verts[(i+1)*n0+j+1])
				f.v.append(me.verts[i*n0+j+1])
				f.v.append(me.verts[i*n0+j])
			me.faces.append(f) 
		me.faces.append(f)
		#f.smooth=smooth
	mesh=NMesh.PutRaw(me, name, 0)
	return mesh

def add_sphere(type=1):
	size_mult=2.0
	selected_objects = Blender.Object.GetSelected() # gets the selected objects
	midpoint=[0, 0, 0]
	max=[0, 0, 0]
	min=[0, 0, 0]
	if len(selected_objects) > 0:
		max=selected_objects[0].getBoundBox()[0]
		min=selected_objects[0].getBoundBox()[7]
	size=[1,1,1]
	object_counter=0
	for object in selected_objects:
		object_counter=object_counter+1
		BB=object.getBoundBox()
		bb_point= [0, 0, 0]
		for point in BB:
			if point[0]>max[0]:	max[0]=point[0]
			if point[1]>max[1]:	max[1]=point[1]
			if point[2]>max[2]:	max[2]=point[2]
			if point[0]<min[0]:	min[0]=point[0]
			if point[1]<min[1]:	min[1]=point[1]
			if point[2]<min[2]:	min[2]=point[2]
			bb_point=[
				bb_point[0]+point[0],
				bb_point[1]+point[1],
				bb_point[2]+point[2] ]
		midpoint=[
			midpoint[0]+bb_point[0]/8,
			midpoint[1]+bb_point[1]/8,
			midpoint[2]+bb_point[2]/8 ]

	if object_counter > 0:
		midpoint = [
			midpoint[0]/object_counter,
			midpoint[1]/object_counter,
			midpoint[2]/object_counter]
		size = [
			max[0]-min[0],
			max[1]-min[1],
			max[2]-min[2] ]

	if not mesh_exists('light_sphere') :
		
		if type==1:
			sphere_object = icosphere('light_sphere', ico_subd, 	0)
		elif type == 2:
			sphere_object = sphere('light_sphere', sphere_faces, 0)
			sphere_object.setName('light_sphere')
		
		print "Object",sphere_object.name,"added."
		sphere_object.setDrawType(2) # set drawtype 2=wire
		sphere_object.setLocation(midpoint)
		sphere_object.setSize(size[0]*size_mult, size[1]*size_mult, size[2]*size_mult)
		sphere_mat = Material.New('light_sphere')
		print "Material",sphere_mat.name,"added."
		sphere_mat.rgbCol = [1.0, 1.0, 1.0]
		sphere_mat.emit = 0.02				# equivalent to mat.setEmit(xxx)
		me=sphere_object.getData()
		me.addMaterial(sphere_mat)
		me.update()
		print sphere_object.getData().materials
		Blender.Redraw()
	else:
		print "ERROR: Sphere already exists."
		Blender.Draw.PupMenu("ERROR%t|Sphere already exists.")

def copy_data():
	#global fromObj, toObj
	me_from = Blender.Object.Get(fromObj).getData()
	me_to = Blender.Object.Get(toObj).getData()

	if not me_to and not me_from:
		print "ERROR: Source/destination object does not exist"
		Blender.Draw.PupMenu("ERROR%t|Source/destination object does not exist")

	elif len(me_to.verts) != len(me_from.verts):
		print "ERROR: Source and destination objects must have the same number of vertices"
		Blender.Draw.PupMenu("ERROR%t|Source and destination objects must have the same number of vertices")
	
	else:
		
		# Transform objects to world space coordinates:
		me_to.transform(Blender.Object.Get(toObj).getMatrix())
		me_from.transform(Blender.Object.Get(fromObj).getMatrix())
	

		l_from = []
			
		for i in range(len(me_from.faces)):
			for j in range(len(me_from.faces[i].v)):
				vert = me_from.faces[i].v[j].co
				l_from.append((vert, i, j))

		
		#me_to.faces[to_f].col[to_v] = me_from.faces[from_f].col[from_v]
		
		def sqdist((x2,y2,z2), (x1,y1,z1)):
			return (x2-x1)**2 + (y2-y1)**2 + (z2-z1)**2
		
		
		for i in range(len(me_to.faces)):
			for j in range(len(me_to.faces[i].v)):
				# find nearest vertex in me_from:
			
				list_index = -1
				least_sqdist = 0
			
				for k in range(len(l_from)):
					d = sqdist(l_from[k][0], me_to.faces[i].v[j])
					
					if list_index < 0 or d < least_sqdist:
						least_sqdist = d
						list_index = k
					
				assert(list_index != -1)
				
				face_index = l_from[list_index][1]
				vert_index = l_from[list_index][2]
				
				me_to.faces[i].col[j] = me_from.faces[face_index].col[vert_index]
				
				del l_from[list_index]

		# Transform objects back to object space coordinates:
		me_to.transform(Blender.Object.Get(toObj).getInverseMatrix())
		me_from.transform(Blender.Object.Get(fromObj).getInverseMatrix())

		me_to.update()
		print "Copied vertex color information from object "+fromObj+" to object "+toObj+"."
		Blender.Draw.PupMenu("SUCESS%t|Copied vertex color information from object "+fromObj+" to object "+toObj+".")

def EVENT(evt,val):
   pass

def BUTTON(evt):
	if (evt==1):
		Exit()
	elif (evt==2):
		copy_data()
	elif (evt==3):
		add_sphere(1)
	elif (evt==4):
		add_sphere(2)
	Blender.Redraw()

def DRAW():
	global fromObj, toObj, fromObjx, toObjx, ico_subd, ico_subdx, sphere_faces, sphere_facesx

	glClear(GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT)
	glColor3f(0.1, 0.1, 0.15)    

	ligne=20
	#PushButton(name, event, x, y, width, height, tooltip=None)
	PushButton ("Exit",1,20,1,80,ligne)
	PushButton ("Copy Data",2,102,1,80,ligne)

	glRasterPos2f(20, ligne*2-10)
	Text("Vertex Color Copy")
	glRasterPos2f(20, ligne*3-5)
	Text("To")
	# String(name, event, x, y, width, height, initial, length, tooltip=None)
	toObj =		String('OB:', 999, 50, ligne*3-10, 200, 18, toObjx.val, 120, "The object to which the vertex colors should be copied." )
	
	glRasterPos2f(20, ligne*4-5)
	Text("From")
	fromObj =	String('OB:', 999, 50, ligne*4-10, 200, 18, fromObjx.val, 120, "The object from which the vertex colors should be copied." )
	
	
	PushButton ("Add IcoSphere", 3, 50, ligne*5-10, 90, ligne)
	#Slider(name, event, x, y, width, height, initial, min, max, realtime=1, tooltip=None)
	ico_subd	=	Slider('Subd:', 999, 50, ligne*6-10, 200, 18, ico_subdx.val, 0, 6, 1, "The subdivisions of the IcoSphere.")
	
	PushButton ("Add Sphere", 4, 50, ligne*7-10, 90, ligne)
	sphere_faces	=	Slider('Sphere faces:', 999, 50, ligne*8-10, 200, 18, sphere_facesx.val, 20, 500, 1, "The faces of the sphere.")
	
	
	toObjx=toObj
	sphere_facesx = sphere_faces
	ico_subdx = ico_subd
	fromObjx=fromObj
	toObj=toObjx.val
	fromObj=fromObjx.val
	sphere_faces = sphere_facesx.val
	ico_subd = ico_subdx.val
	

Register(DRAW,EVENT,BUTTON)