Talk:HowTo:Radiosity baking in Blender

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Image locations

I'm putting out a request for help from the more experienced wiki users on a few matters:

• "Image location": Is there somewhere the pictures can be moved? To future proof everything having them on an external server isn't ideal since it might dissapear forever without notice. --tiny paintings 12:22, 22 Sep 2005 (PDT)
  • The wiki-upload is disable and the gallery upload is currently disfunctuional. I'll try to upload the images to a user directory on sourceforge ASAP. --Pontiac 13:10, 22 Sep 2005 (PDT)
    • Done. See http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/users/tiny_paintings/radiotut/ --Pontiac 14:14, 22 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Image formatting

• Image formatting: Is there a way of inserting some (vertical) space between the images and the text? Image captions? --tiny paintings 12:22, 22 Sep 2005 (PDT)
  • Space is possible via several ways (CSS padding/spacing, tables, etc...) where do you want to add spaces? --Pontiac 13:10, 22 Sep 2005 (PDT)
    • Here: HowTo:Radiosity_baking_in_Blender#A_step_by_step_guide. --tiny paintings 13:19, 22 Sep 2005 (PDT)
      • Ok, done (by using <BR/>s). Now the auto-numbering is correct again as well (no newlines). --Pontiac 09:02, 23 Sep 2005 (PDT)
  • images captions, thumbnails etc... are only (possible (at least easy) with the wiki-uploaded pictures. Depends on what you want to do. --Pontiac 13:10, 22 Sep 2005 (PDT)

Geometry changes

I've followed the tutorial exactly and it does what i expected (not to the end though). But there are two points that do not work as expected:

• Where exactly is the "Draw Normal" button (doesn't really matter, since i know that the normals are right), i can't find it in the F9 menu.--Pontiac 12:29, 23 Sep 2005 (PDT)
  • You have to be in edit-mode for it to show, I'm on it. --tiny paintings 15:55, 23 Sep 2005 (PDT)
    • Ahh perfect. Thanks. --Pontiac 16:21, 23 Sep 2005 (PDT)
• The Mesh created by the radiosity progress has a different vertex-count than the source mesh (without the sphere and with MaxEl set to 1)--Pontiac 12:29, 23 Sep 2005 (PDT)
  • If i "Remove Doubles" (in the vertex-edit menu that is. The button in the radiosity menu doesn't really work) on the vertices then the vertex count is right again, but the order seems to be messed up. --Pontiac 13:03, 23 Sep 2005 (PDT)
    • I suspected that would happend (different vertex counts)... I'll rewrite that part to reflect how I actually did it. --tiny paintings 15:55, 23 Sep 2005 (PDT)
    • With regards to "messed up order": Can you be more specific? I designed the script explictily so that vertex order DOES NOT matter (well, you probably shouldn't move the meshes, though...). --tiny paintings 16:03, 23 Sep 2005 (PDT)
      • What i meant has to do with the vertex-creation of the radiosity process. AFAIK the mess is created when vertices are duplicated and then merged again (via "Remove Doubles" in this case). It depends by what criteria you sort the vertices (x,y,z coords or other?) In theorie you wouldnt need a sorting if you compare the x,y,z coords and only copy the data when they are the same (i know that's not realistical) --Pontiac 16:21, 23 Sep 2005 (PDT)
• There is a third point, but it was only a script error, which i fixed already. (a missing ":")
  • I'm making some changes to the tooltip description of the new script, since it's a bit off, really. --tiny paintings 15:55, 23 Sep 2005 (PDT)
    • I confess that i didn't check the tooltips before posting it here ;) Thanks --Pontiac 16:21, 23 Sep 2005 (PDT)
  • Also, the tutorial is becoming rather cluttered with two scripts in it. Maybe you can put my original script in a file, say vccopy.py, and link to it? The GUI-capable script should be downloadable too to avoid the unnecessary copy-open_emacs-paste-save procedure. --tiny paintings 15:55, 23 Sep 2005 (PDT)
    • If you have no problem with it i would vote to keep only the new (GUI) script (your script is 'nearly 1:1 in there), but keep the original script on the talk page for reference. (less clutter on the main page) ... concentrating on one single script is the way to go IMHO --Pontiac 16:21, 23 Sep 2005 (PDT)