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* @JackS: Wouldn't it be better to name the pages like in this list? [[Vegastrike#TODO]] [[User:pontiac|pontiac]] 12:46, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
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= Example 1 =
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* Here's my suggestion [[User:pontiac|pontiac]]
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* Here's my suggestion [[User:pontiac|pontiac]] 12:46, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
 
: I tried to make the names as simple as possible.
 
: I tried to make the names as simple as possible.
 
: <small>Everything below is categorized under [[:Category:Database]] and linked there)</small>
 
: <small>Everything below is categorized under [[:Category:Database]] and linked there)</small>
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**[[Ship:Pacifier]]
 
**[[Ship:Pacifier]]
 
** etc...
 
** etc...
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*[[Upgrades]] <small>everything is categorized under [[:Category:Upgrade]]</small>
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*[[Upgrades]] <small>everything is categorized under [[:Category:Upgrade]] and [[:Category:Items and Technologies]]</small>
 
**[[Upgrade:UpgradeName]]
 
**[[Upgrade:UpgradeName]]
 
** etc...
 
** etc...
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*[[Cargo]] <small>everything is categorized under [[:Category:Cargo]]</small>
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*[[Weapons]] <small>everything is categorized under [[:Category:Weapon]] and [[:Category:Items and Technologies]]</small>
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**[[Weapon:Dumbfire]]
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** etc...
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*[[Cargo]] <small>everything is categorized under [[:Category:Cargo]] and [[:Category:Items and Technologies]]</small>
 
**[[Cargo:CategoryName:CargoName]]
 
**[[Cargo:CategoryName:CargoName]]
 
** etc...
 
** etc...
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**[[History and Timeline:Ongoing Conflicts]]
 
**[[History and Timeline:Ongoing Conflicts]]
 
** etc...
 
** etc...
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= Talk 1 =
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* I don't really care much whether "glossary" or "terminology" is used, so we can use whichever. [[User:jackS|jackS]]
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** As am i, but i learned it the hard way with the old wiki that a good one is of much help later ;) [[User:pontiac|pontiac]]
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* If we want to split ships and upgrades into separate categories, let's do so with some sort of "Items and Technologies" (or better equivalent name) category, and put Ships, Weapons, Upgrades, and Cargo items in as subcategories. [[User:jackS|jackS]]
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** Since Categorties and Page anmes are a complete different thing we can just man a category [[:Category:Items and Technologies]] and put the mentioned ones in it :)) [[User:pontiac|pontiac]]
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*I'm actually quite fond of "Sapients and Other Noteworthy Species" ;-) "History and Timeline" is cleaner than my first thoughts, let's use that ;-) [[User:jackS|jackS]]
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** I like it too ;)  but this can still be in a subtext/text next to the link IMHO [[User:pontiac|pontiac]]
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*** I acutally meant the "Sapients and Other Noteworthy Species" and that it should be a subtext. Mixed something up when writing this though. Forget the above comment :) [[User:pontiac|pontiac]]
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* but umm sure, let's figure something out. [[User:jackS|jackS]]
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** No problem, see my answers above
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* PS: you can use three tiles to make your username appear in the wiki and four to add the date/time [[User:pontiac|pontiac]] 13:52, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
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<pre>~~~ bzw. ~~~~</pre>
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= Example 2=
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* My version of your version of things - [[User:jackS|jackS]] 14:05, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
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*[[Species]] <small> Species are categorized under [[:Category:Species]], subspecies embedded within species entries</small>
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**[[Species:Aera]]
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**[[Species:Humans]]
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**[[Species:Rlaan]]
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** etc...
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*[[Factions]] <small> top level factions are categorized under [[:Category:Faction]], sub-factions are categorized under the appropriate higher level faction</small>
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**[[Faction:ISO]]
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**[[Faction:Luddites]]
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**[[Faction:Confederation of Inhabited Worlds]]
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**[[Confederation of Inhabited Worlds:Andolian Protectorate]]
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**etc...
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*[[VS Tech]]
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*[[VS Tech:Ships]] <small>all ships categorized under [[:Category:VS Tech:Ships]]</small>
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**[[Ships:Pacifier]]
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** etc...
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*[[VS Tech:Upgrades]] <small>everything is categorized under [[:Category:Upgrades]]</small>
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**[[Upgrades:UpgradeName]]
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** etc...
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*[[VS Tech:Weapons]]
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**[[Weapons:Disruptor]]
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** etc ...
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*[[VS Tech:Cargo]] <small>everything is categorized under [[:Category:Cargo]]</small>
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**[[Cargo:CategoryName:CargoName]]
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** etc...
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:important to note that cargo categories are non-finalized, so we may want to keep this a flat hierarchy until we do so.
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*[[History and Timeline]] <small>everything is categorized under [[:Category:History and Timeline]]</small>
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**[[History and Timeline:Timeline]]
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**[[History and Timeline:First Encounters]]
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**[[History and Timeline:Ongoing Conflicts]]
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** etc...
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*[[Terminology]] <small>everything is categorized under [[:Category:Term]]</small>
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**[[Terminology:FTL Travel]]
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**[[Terminology:Earth]]
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**[[Terminology:SPEC_(-drive)]]
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**[[Terminology:Aera]] <- ''Yeah double entry (see below). This should be redirected to the species section of course ;)''
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**etc...
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= Talk 2 =
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* Ok, two comments on the second approach:
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** Instead of making a site named VSTech just mak3e a Category where every VStech is classified in. As i said above with the "Items and TEchnology" or so category.
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** When making Subfactions i think if would be better to use this layout:
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*** Faction:bigfaction
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*** Faction:bigfaction:subfaction
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= example 3 =
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<small>everything is categorized under [[:Category:Database]]</small>
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*[[Terms]] <small>everything is categorized under [[:Category:Term]]</small>
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**[[Term:FTL Travel]]
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**[[Term:Earth]]
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**[[Term:SPEC]]
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**[[Term:Aera]] <- ''Yeah double entry (see below). This should be redirected to the species section of course ;)''
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**etc...
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*[[Ships]] <small>[[:Category:Ship]] and [[:Category:VS Tech]]</small>
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**[[Ship:Pacifier]]
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** etc...
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*[[Upgrades]] <small>[[:Category:Upgrade]] and [[:Category:VS Tech]]</small>
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**[[Upgrade:UpgradeName]]
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** etc...
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*[[Weapons]] <small>[[:Category:Weapon]] and [[:Category:VS Tech]]</small>
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**[[Weapon:Dumbfire]]
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** etc...
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*[[Cargo]] <small>[[:Category:Cargo]] and [[:Category:VS Tech]]</small>
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**[[Cargo:CategoryName:CargoName]]
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** etc...
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**important to note that cargo categories are non-finalized, so we may want to keep this a flat hierarchy until we do so. jackS
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*** Good idea, moving is easy done later [[User:pontiac|pontiac]]
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*[[Factions]] <small>[[:Category:Faction]].., Subfactions under [[:Category:Faction]] AND [[:Category:Subfaction]]</small>
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**[[Faction:ISO]]
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**[[Faction:Luddites]]
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**[[Faction:Confederation of Inhabited Worlds]]
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**[[Faction:Confederation of Inhabited Worlds:Andolian Protectorate]]
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**etc...
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*[[Species]] <small>[[:Category:Species]]</small>
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**[[Species:Aera]]
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**[[Species:Humans]]
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**[[Species:Rlaan]]
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** etc...
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*[[History and Timeline]] <small>[[:Category:History and Timeline]]</small>
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**[[History and Timeline:Timeline]]
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**[[History and Timeline:First Encounters]]
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**[[History and Timeline:Ongoing Conflicts]]
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** etc...
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[[User:pontiac|pontiac]] 14:18, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
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= Talk3 =
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NOTE: everything in VS Tech will automatically be listed in [[:Category:VS Tech]]
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NOTE2: e.g. [[History and Timeline]] and  [[:Category:History and Timeline]] have two completly different purposes (Hand edited page/ aut-collected listing of pages) Just FYI
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[[User:pontiac|pontiac]] 14:18, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
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[[User:jackS|jackS]] 14:22, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
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ah... I was perhaps confused then. I was only thinking about the visible page topology, rather than the internal one.
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[[User:jackS|jackS]] 14:23, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
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oh, about the factions, yeah, that's what I meant. See above comment for source of my confusion
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Ok, i try to clean up the example 3 now and post it as Example 4 [[User:pontiac|pontiac]]
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= example 4 =
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Ok, what about this?
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<small>everything is categorized under [[:Category:Database]]</small>
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*[[Ships]] <small>[[:Category:Ship]] and [[:Category:VS Tech]]</small>
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**[[Ship:Pacifier]]
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** etc...
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*[[Upgrades]] <small>[[:Category:Upgrade]] and [[:Category:VS Tech]]</small>
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**[[Upgrade:UpgradeName]]
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** etc...
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*[[Weapons]] <small>[[:Category:Weapon]] and [[:Category:VS Tech]]</small>
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**[[Weapon:Dumbfire]]
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** etc...
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*[[Cargo]] <small>[[:Category:Cargo]] and [[:Category:VS Tech]]</small>
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**[[Cargo:CARGOCategoryName:CargoName]]
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** ''Note that the CARGOCategoryName has nothing to do with the wiki-categories. We could do it with wiki-categories too though. But this is easiely done in the future too.'' [[User:pontiac|pontiac]] 14:43, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
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** etc...
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**important to note that cargo categories are non-finalized, so we may want to keep this a flat hierarchy until we do so. jackS
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*** Good idea, moving is easy done later [[User:pontiac|pontiac]]
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*[[Factions]] <small>[[:Category:Faction]] </small>
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**[[Faction:ISO]]
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**[[Faction:Luddites]]
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**[[Faction:Confederation of Inhabited Worlds]]
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**[[Faction:Confederation of Inhabited Worlds:Andolian Protectorate]] <small>Subfactions like this are classified under [[:Category:Faction]] AND [[:Category:Subfaction]]</small>
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**etc...
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*[[Species]] <small>[[:Category:Species]]</small>
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**[[Species:Aera]]
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**[[Species:Humans]]
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**[[Species:Rlaan]]
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** etc...
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*[[History and Timeline]] <small>[[:Category:History and Timeline]]</small>
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**[[History and Timeline:Timeline]]
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**[[History and Timeline:First Encounters]]
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**[[History and Timeline:Ongoing Conflicts]]
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** etc...
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*[[Terminology]] <small>[[:Category:Terminology]]</small>
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**[[Terminology:FTL Travel]]
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**[[Terminology:Earth]]
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**[[Terminology:SPEC_(-drive)]]
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**[[Terminology:Aera]] <- ''Yeah double entry (see below). This should be redirected to the species section of course ;)''
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**etc...
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[[User:pontiac|pontiac]] 14:29, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
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= Talk 4 =
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* Looks Reasonable to me :) [[User:jackS|jackS]] 14:31, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
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* Ok, perfect :) So we can (hopefully) start to finally build a huge Vegastrike database without too much problems like in the old wiki. But now i'm off to sleep. need to go to work tomorrow :? [[User:pontiac|pontiac]] 14:35, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
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* [[User:jackS|jackS]] 14:42, 28 Feb 2005 (PST) sounds good. Looks like I need to bother to read whether it's a category or an article a link is pointing to before I edit it :-P We should change the database link from the front to point to a database article rather than the database category
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** You are right, it shouldn't point directly to the database page. I'll fix this right now [[User:pontiac|pontiac]] 14:44, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
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*** Ok, you were faster ;) [[User:pontiac|pontiac]] 14:45, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)

Latest revision as of 05:52, 28 September 2006

Example 1

  • Here's my suggestion pontiac 12:46, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
I tried to make the names as simple as possible.
Everything below is categorized under Category:Database and linked there)

Talk 1

  • I don't really care much whether "glossary" or "terminology" is used, so we can use whichever. jackS
    • As am i, but i learned it the hard way with the old wiki that a good one is of much help later ;) pontiac
  • If we want to split ships and upgrades into separate categories, let's do so with some sort of "Items and Technologies" (or better equivalent name) category, and put Ships, Weapons, Upgrades, and Cargo items in as subcategories. jackS
  • I'm actually quite fond of "Sapients and Other Noteworthy Species" ;-) "History and Timeline" is cleaner than my first thoughts, let's use that ;-) jackS
    • I like it too ;) but this can still be in a subtext/text next to the link IMHO pontiac
      • I acutally meant the "Sapients and Other Noteworthy Species" and that it should be a subtext. Mixed something up when writing this though. Forget the above comment :) pontiac
  • but umm sure, let's figure something out. jackS
    • No problem, see my answers above
  • PS: you can use three tiles to make your username appear in the wiki and four to add the date/time pontiac 13:52, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
~~~ bzw. ~~~~

Example 2

important to note that cargo categories are non-finalized, so we may want to keep this a flat hierarchy until we do so.

Talk 2

  • Ok, two comments on the second approach:
    • Instead of making a site named VSTech just mak3e a Category where every VStech is classified in. As i said above with the "Items and TEchnology" or so category.
    • When making Subfactions i think if would be better to use this layout:
      • Faction:bigfaction
      • Faction:bigfaction:subfaction

example 3

everything is categorized under Category:Database

pontiac 14:18, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)

Talk3

NOTE: everything in VS Tech will automatically be listed in Category:VS Tech NOTE2: e.g. History and Timeline and Category:History and Timeline have two completly different purposes (Hand edited page/ aut-collected listing of pages) Just FYI

pontiac 14:18, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)

jackS 14:22, 28 Feb 2005 (PST) ah... I was perhaps confused then. I was only thinking about the visible page topology, rather than the internal one.

jackS 14:23, 28 Feb 2005 (PST) oh, about the factions, yeah, that's what I meant. See above comment for source of my confusion

Ok, i try to clean up the example 3 now and post it as Example 4 pontiac

example 4

Ok, what about this?

everything is categorized under Category:Database

pontiac 14:29, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)

Talk 4

  • Looks Reasonable to me :) jackS 14:31, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
  • Ok, perfect :) So we can (hopefully) start to finally build a huge Vegastrike database without too much problems like in the old wiki. But now i'm off to sleep. need to go to work tomorrow :? pontiac 14:35, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
  • jackS 14:42, 28 Feb 2005 (PST) sounds good. Looks like I need to bother to read whether it's a category or an article a link is pointing to before I edit it :-P We should change the database link from the front to point to a database article rather than the database category
    • You are right, it shouldn't point directly to the database page. I'll fix this right now pontiac 14:44, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
      • Ok, you were faster ;) pontiac 14:45, 28 Feb 2005 (PST)
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